This is a follow up to this thread, which generated some very interesting discussion. Usually, I like to leave work as it is, but a few good points were raised, and in discussion with a poster on something unrelated, I discovered an error in my calculation. This thread seeks to correct this error, and take into account some suggestions that I personally felt were quite valid.
The first, funnily enough came from me about 4 seconds after I posted the thread. The use of 0.6×WPM to estimate the standard deviation for each player felt sketchy when I wrote it, and I regretted this choice immediately after, simply because I didn't feel it was well justified. So, I figured I'd do a slightly longer justification of this, and see if we can get a better estimate of it. To achieve this, I'll be using the 15 bowlers with 50+ tests bowling in the first 4 roles, though looking at their overall statistics. I've also made a minor adjustment to the requirements here of bowlers needing to bowl at least 20 overs per match, which changes virtually nothing, but I already did a day or so ago, and figured I'll leave in. In any case, the results are like the more general tests I did a while ago, though 0.60 does seem a bit of a low 'rule of thumb' estimate, with the average being 0.6410, and the standard deviation in this being 0.0802. Due to this, I figured rather than going through and redoing my code entirely, etc, I'd just up the rule of thumb from 0.6000 to 0.7000. This is a dirty, dirty way of doing it, but the method was already dirty as hell.
The second concern raised was around the nature of this being a team of the decade. The question was raised as to whether or not someone who has only been playing a handful of years this decade should even be considered. On this basis, on the corrected teams, I'll disqualify anyone who has not been active for at least 5 years of the decade. This will be defined by the year of their first and last tests that decade. So someone who played in 2011 and 2015 would be eligible, even if they didn't play in 2012-14.
The third was around selection criteria. Selecting players an allrounder before a specialist does indeed make no sense, and I'm glad a couple of people raised this as a concern. The reason I agree with them here can be seen in the actual team as picked. Picking Ashwin as an allrounder first meant that a weaker batter was in the side, and an even weaker one was picked as the spinner in Herath. If we went the other way, it would be Ashwin as the spinner, and Jadeja as the allrounder. This makes sense, as ideally you pick your best bowlers as... well, the bowlers, and then others come into the frame due to their other qualities, rather than the other way around. This means that the order of picking players will go:
- Wicket Keepers
- Bowlers
- Openers
- Number 3
- Top Order Batsmen
- All Rounders
ie, start from the hard to fill roles. There is certainly more discussion that can be had around this.
Finally, the big one, and the reason I made this post was an error with how I propagated uncertainty. The calculations with a geometric mean should propagate uncertainty with a factor of a half, but... well, when I wrote the code I just forgot to put it in there. This means that in all calculations which involved one of these geometric means, the uncertainty was doubled. This happened for wicket keepers, bowlers and allrounders, twice over for all rounders even. This does indeed have an impact. Whoopsies.
While batters are completely unaffected by this error, I'll post their data anyhow, just as a chance to discuss if we need to for eligibility. Eligibility will only be discussed for players who would be picked if not for it.
Anyhow, let's get picking, this time in selection order.
Wicket Keeper
Player | Mat | Runs | Ave | Dis | D/M | Rating | B-Rating |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AB de Villiers (SA) | 21 | 1955 | 63.06 | 83 | 3.952 | 15.79 | 13.33 |
Q de Kock (SA) | 46 | 2902 | 40.31 | 206 | 4.478 | 13.43 | 12.80 |
BJ Watling (NZ) | 64 | 3374 | 40.17 | 249 | 3.891 | 12.50 | 12.18 |
RR Pant (INDIA) | 14 | 843 | 38.32 | 65 | 4.643 | 13.34 | 12.00 |
JM Bairstow (ENG) | 48 | 3028 | 37.85 | 181 | 3.771 | 11.95 | 11.70 |
TD Paine (AUS) | 29 | 1130 | 31.39 | 134 | 4.621 | 12.04 | 11.60 |
MJ Prior (ENG) | 40 | 2069 | 39.04 | 142 | 3.550 | 11.77 | 11.50 |
Sarfaraz Ahmed (PAK) | 48 | 2651 | 37.34 | 163 | 3.396 | 11.26 | 11.14 |
LD Chandimal (SL) | 24 | 1602 | 41.08 | 72 | 3.000 | 11.10 | 10.94 |
MS Dhoni (INDIA) | 37 | 1951 | 34.84 | 126 | 3.405 | 10.89 | 10.82 |
So, with the correction AB is clearly favoured, largely on his batting.
Spinner
Player | Mat | W | WPM | Ave | Rating | B-Rating |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
R Ashwin (INDIA) | 73 | 375 | 5.137 | 25.22 | 0.4513 | 0.4417 |
Saeed Ajmal (PAK) | 26 | 145 | 5.577 | 25.46 | 0.4680 | 0.4401 |
HMRKB Herath (SL) | 69 | 355 | 5.145 | 26.30 | 0.4423 | 0.4333 |
PP Ojha (INDIA) | 13 | 71 | 5.462 | 24.27 | 0.4744 | 0.4247 |
RA Jadeja (INDIA) | 50 | 216 | 4.320 | 24.49 | 0.4200 | 0.4108 |
Yasir Shah (PAK) | 43 | 227 | 5.279 | 30.85 | 0.4136 | 0.4045 |
S Shillingford (WI) | 11 | 56 | 5.091 | 29.00 | 0.4190 | 0.3895 |
Abdur Rehman (PAK) | 18 | 79 | 4.389 | 26.85 | 0.4043 | 0.3874 |
NM Lyon (AUS) | 98 | 394 | 4.020 | 31.64 | 0.3565 | 0.3554 |
Shakib Al Hasan (BDESH) | 35 | 135 | 3.857 | 30.57 | 0.3552 | 0.3524 |
Ashwin, of course, wins. Ajmal was damn close, but would not have been eligible anyhow, as he was only playing for a 4 year stretch in the decade, 2011-2014.
Seamers
Player | Mat | W | WPM | Ave | Rating | B-Rating |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
PJ Cummins (AUS) | 32 | 153 | 4.781 | 21.52 | 0.4714 | 0.4460 |
JJ Bumrah (INDIA) | 16 | 76 | 4.750 | 20.68 | 0.4792 | 0.4327 |
K Rabada (SA) | 43 | 197 | 4.581 | 22.96 | 0.4467 | 0.4317 |
DW Steyn (SA) | 48 | 207 | 4.313 | 22.56 | 0.4373 | 0.4250 |
D Olivier (SA) | 10 | 48 | 4.800 | 19.25 | 0.4994 | 0.4249 |
RJ Harris (AUS) | 22 | 93 | 4.227 | 23.33 | 0.4256 | 0.4053 |
BW Hilfenhaus (AUS) | 11 | 47 | 4.273 | 22.06 | 0.4401 | 0.3999 |
JM Anderson (ENG) | 100 | 395 | 3.950 | 24.33 | 0.4029 | 0.3992 |
N Wagner (NZ) | 51 | 219 | 4.294 | 26.33 | 0.4039 | 0.3969 |
MA Starc (AUS) | 59 | 252 | 4.271 | 26.75 | 0.3996 | 0.3939 |
Bumrah's impressive record really stands out, here, but ultimately he is not eligible due to only playing since 2018, so a 3 year stretch. This means an unchanged trio of Cummins, Rabada and Steyn are picked. Cummins is eligible as he debuted in 2011, and has played in 5 separate years anyhow (2011, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020). Bumrah's efforts deserve a mention though. He's yet to even play a home Test, yet boasts such a record, which is truly ridiculous. Not to get too off on a tangent here, but look at the best away records (min 50 wickets):
Player | Mat | W | WPM | Ave | Rat |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
WJ O'Reilly (AUS) | 15 | 85 | 5.667 | 21.19 | 0.5171 |
JA Snow (ENG) | 12 | 62 | 5.167 | 20.92 | 0.4970 |
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ) | 43 | 230 | 5.349 | 21.72 | 0.4962 |
PM Pollock (SA) | 11 | 60 | 5.455 | 22.23 | 0.4953 |
J Garner (WI) | 29 | 136 | 4.690 | 19.74 | 0.4874 |
PJ Cummins (AUS) | 14 | 72 | 5.143 | 21.86 | 0.4850 |
JJ Bumrah (INDIA) | 16 | 76 | 4.750 | 20.68 | 0.4792 |
FH Tyson (ENG) | 13 | 56 | 4.308 | 18.96 | 0.4766 |
GD McGrath (AUS) | 58 | 274 | 4.724 | 20.81 | 0.4764 |
Mohammad Asif (PAK) | 19 | 96 | 5.053 | 22.50 | 0.4739 |
That is some high company, and honestly, it's hard to not get excited about a potential addition to the pantheon of all time greats. Not for this "decade" though. Moving along:
Openers
Player | Mat | Inns | Runs | Ave | B-Ave |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
DA Warner (AUS) | 84 | 152 | 7205 | 49.69 | 47.60 |
AN Cook (ENG) | 97 | 176 | 7482 | 44.54 | 43.61 |
Azhar Ali (PAK) | 20 | 37 | 1556 | 45.76 | 42.03 |
CJL Rogers (AUS) | 24 | 46 | 1996 | 44.36 | 41.81 |
TWM Latham (NZ) | 54 | 94 | 3867 | 42.97 | 41.78 |
MA Agarwal (INDIA) | 13 | 21 | 1005 | 47.86 | 41.67 |
CH Gayle (WI) | 12 | 23 | 841 | 46.72 | 40.89 |
GC Smith (SA) | 27 | 48 | 1843 | 41.89 | 40.25 |
D Elgar (SA) | 56 | 100 | 3757 | 40.40 | 39.77 |
S Dhawan (INDIA) | 34 | 58 | 2315 | 40.61 | 39.63 |
No eligibility concerns, it's Warner and Cook still. I did read some crying about Warner's away record. You can read my thoughts on that here.
Number 3
Player | Match | Inns | Runs | Ave | B-Ave |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
KC Sangakkara (SL) | 39 | 71 | 4068 | 61.64 | 51.84 |
KS Williamson (NZ) | 72 | 124 | 6283 | 56.10 | 51.44 |
SPD Smith (AUS) | 17 | 29 | 1744 | 67.08 | 46.99 |
CA Pujara (INDIA) | 72 | 115 | 5314 | 48.31 | 46.06 |
HM Amla (SA) | 61 | 100 | 4503 | 48.42 | 45.82 |
M Labuschagne (AUS) | 10 | 17 | 1203 | 70.76 | 44.56 |
Azhar Ali (PAK) | 56 | 95 | 4000 | 43.96 | 42.54 |
GS Ballance (ENG) | 16 | 29 | 1254 | 46.44 | 41.80 |
IR Bell (ENG) | 11 | 15 | 742 | 53.00 | 41.65 |
R Dravid (INDIA) | 13 | 24 | 943 | 42.86 | 39.83 |
I got a number of posts question why Sangakkara would bat three, and not play as keeper. As noted, he didn't keep this decade, and wasn't any better than someone like de Kock with the bat when he did the previous decade, and he was a monster at 3, as shown above. He did indeed play in 5 years of the decade, from 2011-2015, so he is eligible. Sangakkara it is.
Other Top Order Batsmen
Player | Mat | Inns | Runs | Average | B-Ave |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
SPD Smith (AUS) | 71 | 127 | 7050 | 64.09 | 56.00 |
KC Sangakkara (SL) | 40 | 77 | 4156 | 57.72 | 50.52 |
V Kohli (INDIA) | 87 | 147 | 7318 | 53.42 | 50.24 |
KS Williamson (NZ) | 79 | 138 | 6665 | 53.32 | 49.93 |
S Chanderpaul (WI) | 35 | 61 | 2804 | 60.96 | 49.40 |
Younis Khan (PAK) | 53 | 97 | 4659 | 54.17 | 49.32 |
AB de Villiers (SA) | 49 | 80 | 4063 | 54.17 | 48.83 |
MJ Clarke (AUS) | 47 | 86 | 3946 | 51.92 | 47.57 |
DA Warner (AUS) | 84 | 155 | 7244 | 48.95 | 47.05 |
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) | 54 | 95 | 3994 | 49.93 | 46.48 |
It's Smith and Kohli, as Sangakkara is at 3, just as before.
All Rounders
Player | Mat | Bat-Ave | WPM | Bowl-Ave | Rating | AllRnd | B-AllRnd |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shakib Al Hasan (BDESH) | 35 | 44.72 | 4 | 30.57 | 0.3552 | 3.985 | 3.607 |
RA Jadeja (INDIA) | 50 | 35.67 | 4 | 24.49 | 0.4200 | 3.871 | 3.535 |
R Ashwin (INDIA) | 73 | 27.48 | 5 | 25.22 | 0.4513 | 3.521 | 3.376 |
BA Stokes (ENG) | 67 | 37.85 | 2 | 31.41 | 0.2740 | 3.220 | 3.143 |
JO Holder (WI) | 45 | 32.05 | 3 | 27.95 | 0.3037 | 3.120 | 3.021 |
VD Philander (SA) | 64 | 24.04 | 4 | 22.32 | 0.3960 | 3.085 | 3.008 |
MA Starc (AUS) | 59 | 22.16 | 4 | 26.75 | 0.3996 | 2.976 | 2.914 |
C de Grandhomme (NZ) | 24 | 37.03 | 2 | 31.64 | 0.2488 | 3.035 | 2.890 |
MG Johnson (AUS) | 32 | 22.47 | 4 | 27.07 | 0.3963 | 2.984 | 2.887 |
CR Woakes (ENG) | 38 | 27.52 | 3 | 29.30 | 0.3171 | 2.954 | 2.872 |
The correction really helps Shakib, whose only issue was uncertainty around his performances. This is entirely my mistake, and he makes the list handily in the end.
Final Corrected XI:
Position | Player | Bat Ave | DPM | WPM | Bowl Ave |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Warner | 49.69 | NA | NA | NA |
2 | Cook | 44.54 | NA | NA | NA |
3 | Sangakkara | 61.64 | NA | NA | NA |
4 | Smith | 64.09 | NA | 0.197 | 57.64 |
5 | de Villiers† | 63.06 | 3.952 | NA | NA |
6 | Kohli* | 53.42 | NA | 0.000 | NA |
7 | Shakib | 44.72 | NA | 3.857 | 30.57 |
8 | Ashwin | 27.48 | NA | 5.137 | 25.22 |
9 | Cummins | 16.54 | NA | 4.781 | 21.52 |
10 | Steyn | 13.53 | NA | 4.313 | 22.56 |
11 | Rabada | 11.43 | NA | 4.581 | 22.96 |
So yeah, that's not far off what a lot of people suggested in the comments. The idea of Kohli coming in at 6 after the keeper tickles me slightly, but I did just follow the method. Shakib in the side looks damn good too, and the issues surrounding a long tail have been well and truly dealt with.
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